北京时间9月12号，掘金前锋肯尼思-法里德在接受采访时表示，他不但有天赋，而且有打球的热情。
在今年的西班牙男篮世界杯上，法里德打出了出色的表现。
&在西班牙，人们花了一些时间才弄清楚我是谁，&法里德说，&但是他们现在知道我是&半兽人(Manimal)&了。&
在美国这次世界杯的比赛中，截止到目前为止，法里德先发出战了所有8场比赛。
&我想展示给人们，我会为美国而战，直到最后。&法里德说，&我从不只把我自己看作是一名能量球员，我比其他人更有比赛热情，我打球很努力，很多人不相信这些，因为他们觉得篮球就是靠天赋，我有天赋，而且我有热情。&
很多人觉得这届美国队的成员组成不是最强的，但是法里德有自己的想法。
&这很不尊重人，说美国派了第二阵容来是很不尊敬的，&法里德说，&你们说美国不强，因为我们没有派我们全部的巨星来？我会说&谢谢，这是让我前进的动力。&&
在这次世界杯的比赛中，法里德场均可以贡献12.5分7.9篮板。
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对自身认识不错。。。。。
再美国人中你的天赋一般，但热情激情大大的有
NBA积极性最好的球员了，没有教练不喜欢他
生体真好。。。。。。。。
掘金GM哭死了，怕是留不住……
我感觉法里埃德有点像罗德曼加巴克利，不过他的风格让我不得不想到樱木花道
千万年薪值得拥有
终于能经常看到法里德的新闻了，看好成为下一个大本！
900万不错了。不过一到自由市场很容易溢价。。。
上赛季掘金多次想交易他。事实证明价值在不同的时刻是不一样的。
最后我再说一句。我的黑鸟很有天赋
除了积极性感觉还差些东西。自主进攻，投篮，防守，都得加强
大本？？？他们不是一类的球员吧？
你要是再长高5-8公分，练出中投，保持运动力，
四号位身高偏爱，运动能力补救，但进攻手段单一，如果随着年纪上涨，运动能力下降，所以还是开发下进攻手段吧
法理埃德的活力没的说啊 真心不错
最大的天赋就是激情啊
确实有激情
24小时新闻排行榜法里德什么水平，一直没兑现天赋还是以前被高估了？
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年纪轻轻的，身体也好，外号半兽人，在经常只打26、27分钟
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北京时间9月12号，掘金前锋肯尼思-法里德在接受采访时表示，他不但有天赋，而且有打球的热情。
北京时间9月12号，掘金前锋肯尼思-法里德在接受采访时表示，他不但有天赋，而且有打球的热情。在今年的西班牙男篮世界杯上，法里德打出了出色的表现。“在西班牙，人们花了一些时间才弄清楚我是谁，”法里德说，“但是他们现在知道我是&半兽人(Manimal)&了。”在美国这次世界杯的比赛中，截止到目前为止，法里德先发出战了所有8场比赛。“我想展示给人们，我会为美国而战，直到最后。”法里德说，“我从不只把我自己看作是一名能量球员，我比其他人更有比赛热情，我打球很努力，很多人不相信这些，因为他们觉得篮球就是靠天赋，我有天赋，而且我有热情。”很多人觉得这届美国队的成员组成不是最强的，但是法里德有自己的想法。“这很不尊重人，说美国派了第二阵容来是很不尊敬的，”法里德说，“你们说美国不强，因为我们没有派我们全部的巨星来？我会说&谢谢，这是让我前进的动力。&”在这次世界杯的比赛中，法里德场均可以贡献12.5分7.9篮板。
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48小时点击排行& 武学奇才是一个被高估了的天赋
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每10点武学和悟性增加100点修炼经验 感觉不是很实用啊！
超级皮波 因扎吉 不灭神话聖鬥士·天秤座·雅典娜之驚歎
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玩无限体力或者少体力消耗的mod，这个天赋就是垃圾，如果是玩原版，又想全美女的情圣结局，这个天赋是必备的。
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我昨天选的这个天赋，6维虽然满了，但是其他内容还是顾不上，最终与六脉神剑失之交臂，直接重新开始，选了搏击大师，依然是为六脉神剑
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最高悟性可以120，学独孤奇才很好用
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有这个天赋练功一次加两点武学，没有的话就只加一点
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练招式普通人物+一次套路熟练，武学奇才+两次，就是说同样练独孤九剑和野球拳，普通人物如果要练20次满，武学奇才只要10次。
你居然说不实用……
只是提到那个什么100修炼经验那个说实话那个你不说我都不知道……
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lwx3664 发表于
有这个天赋练功一次加两点武学，没有的话就只加一点
+没有吧？只是+两次套路熟练而已？
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蓬莱醉梦 发表于
最高悟性可以120，学独孤奇才很好用
武学奇才悟性上限120是哪里传出来的谣言
我以为真的有120上限，结果弄了个武学奇才档玩独孤九剑，不断S/L，一点一点打到洛阳，赚完钱买完当铺的所有物品，把加悟性的书全鉴定出来以后发现，上限依然是100
于是立马弃档重开了个搏击大师玩六脉神剑
如切如磋，如琢如磨
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仙津伏梦 发表于
+没有吧？只是+两次套路熟练而已？
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武学奇才就是练什么都快
省下来的体力给你闲逛用的
武学奇才表示,洛阳郊外找武当弟子练剑,逍遥剑法从一练到十,剑法还是0
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六脉搏击屌用没有，配耳聪目明更好，带小无相功 无限蓝 40%爆
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觉得没用的都是用减耗MOD的吧
原版就奇才是最好的 其他都是垃圾 也就空手能用用搏击
什么风流 臭味 武器才是都是垃圾
不用MOD的话你不用奇才 到最后你武学都没法满 能到400都不得了了
武学除了练功就只有一些特定的战斗或者事件才能增加 找人实战无法增加 而这个属性是唯一一个能和悟性一样增加练功经验 又能和实战一样增加战斗伤害的
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不改是个很强的天赋
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wjb007 发表于
武学奇才悟性上限120是哪里传出来的谣言
我以为真的有120上限，结果弄了个武学奇才档玩独孤九剑，不 ...
装备夜明珠就是120了
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实测挖矿开局搏击流也能通情圣，我差一点，忘了沈湘芸的一个必要剧情，NND。。。。。。
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武学奇才是被高估了
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Deadeye1985 发表于
武学奇才就是练什么都快
省下来的体力给你闲逛用的
這個版已經不能像舊版, 戰鬥只加招式經驗, 劍法屬性必須在養成模式練劍招才加的
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我昨天选的这个天赋，6维虽然满了，但是其他内容还是顾不上，最终与六脉神剑失之交臂，直接重新开始，选了 ...
你可以試下第一屬性選刻苦耐勞吧
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武學奇才真的挺好, 因為加快武學點和實戰的增加速度, 帶來三個好處, 第一個是練基本功會越來越快(滾雪球效應), 第二個是戰鬥增加傷害, 第三個好處到了徐大大出天王線時會更體現出來, 杭州要琴棋書畫40見香兒, 那麼武學奇才為我們省的回合數就可以用來練技藝啦.
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&()&有哪些球员你以为被高估，但是他们最终表现却打了你的脸？[C]Pistons&118&指&1&天&前&Stephen Curry. I always believed because of his "SG in a PG body" situation that he wouldn't succeed in the NBA. He's proved me wrong史蒂芬-库里。我一直以为他会因为“披着控卫皮的分卫”的关系混不好NBA，他已经证明我是错的。&[C][UTA] John Stockton&23&指&1&天&前&Same here. Always thought Steph would be a slightly above average PG at best.Glad I was wrong我也是。一直以为他撑死就是个平均水准之上一点点的普通控卫。幸好我错了。&[C]Timberwolves&18&指&1&天&前&I'd figured he'd be out of the league early due to the ankle issues that plagued the beginning of his career but he's managed to stay healthy and prove me wrong.由于他职业生涯初期就被脚踝伤势困扰，我曾以为他会很早就退出联盟，不过他已经可以做到保持健康了，证明我是错的。&[C]Jazz&2&指&1&天&前&Yea, I thought those injuries would be holding him back and I thought he'd just be a volume chucker in the NBA after seeing him in college, but honestly he's a top 3 PG right now.是啊，我以为那些伤势会限制他的发挥，而且自从看过他在大学的表现我以为他会是那种不顾别人只管自己扔的球员，但是实话实说他现在是联盟前三控卫。[C]Suns&6&指&22&小r&前&Yeah I remember when the Warriors were deciding whether to keep Steph Curry long term or Monta Ellis. Back then I thought they should have kept Monta because of how prone Steph was to messing up his ankles.是啊我记得当年勇士决定长期留下史蒂芬-库里还是蒙塔-埃利斯时，我以为他们会因为库里易碎的脚踝会选择保留蒙塔。[C]Lakers&3&指&1&天&前&That's interesting because I had the exact opposite reaction. I even remember where I was the first time I saw Curry highlights on Sports center before he was drafted. My first thought was the way he played would be unstoppable at any level, totally unguardable.说来有趣，我对此反应完全相反。我甚至还记得在库里被选中之前我在Sports Center第一次看他的集锦。我的第一印象就是他在任何级别都是无人阻挡的，完全没法防守。&[C]Lakers&3&指&21&小r&前&I was on the same boat as you were a few years back. If he keeps it up, he'll go down as one of the best 3-point shooters in history.几年前我也和你一样看。如果他能保持下去，他会成为史上最佳的三分投手之一。&[C]Magic&3&指&15&小r&前&he already is, tbh说真的他已经是了。[C]Trail Blazers&263&指&1&天&前&Blake Griffin. I used to think he was just a dunker, now I think he's the best power forward in the game. Although I regret nothing because it used to be true.布雷克-格里芬。我曾以为他只是会扣篮，现在我觉得他是联盟最好的大前锋了。不过我不会承认我被打脸了因为他确实曾经只会扣篮。&[C]Wizards&72&指&1&天&前&He was always a good ball-handler and passer, Vinny just didn't have the imagination to harness it.他一直都有一手好控球也能传，尼格罗只是没有能驾驭他的想象力。&[C]Spurs&43&指&1&天&前&I thought Shaq was off his rocker when he said Blake would be the next great player in the game. Now I expect him to crack the Top Five in a year or two. Dude has tremendous work-ethic, and his steady improvement is proof.当奥胖说格里芬会是联盟下一个巨星的时候我曾以为他精神错乱了。现在我期待他在一两年内可以突破联盟前五。这哥们有绝好的职业态度，他稳定的进步就是证据。&[C]Clippers&14&指&1&天&前&I think he was top 5 last year. Top 3 even我觉得他去年就已经是Top5了，甚至Top3。&[C][LAL] Julius Randle&39&指&1&天&前&Definitely top 5绝对有Top5了。[C]Timberwolves&7&指&1&天&前&Actually guys, I think we have the best PF.oh wait狼蜜：事实上，我觉得我们有联盟最好大前锋。（）额等一下……&[C]Canada&1&指&3&小r&前&Anthony Bennett MIP & MVP嗯。-本内特，最快进步球员+最有价值球员。[C]Pau Gasol&25&指&1&天&前&Kenneth Faried impressed me in the World Cup, but I want to see him in a full NBA season before he proves himself to me. 13.7ppg & 8.6rpg is great but if he could add a jumper or improves his mid-range we might have something here.You hear me Faried? That's what you have to do if you want to impress an internet stranger!肯尼斯-法里德在世界杯的表现让我震惊，但是我想看他在一整个NBA赛季里证明自己。13.7+8.6挺好的但是如果他能练出跳投或者改善中距离我们或许会干出点什么。法里德你听到没？想说服一个键盘党你得按我说的办！&[C]Rockets&6&指&1&天&前&Isn't 'add a jumper' and 'improve his midrange' the same thing? He did actually improve his jumper towards the end of last year, but I agree that's an aspect of his game that could allow him to take the next step.“练出跳投”和“改善中距离”难道不是一回事么？到去年年底，他倒是真的提升了自己的跳投水平。但是我同意这方面是可以让他的水平更进一步的。[C]Timberwolves&2&指&19&小r&前&His play in the 57-win Nuggets season was more impressive than his FIBA play, IMHO.依愚人之见，他随掘金拿到57胜的那个赛季的表现比FIBA的表现更赞。&[C]Timberwolves&20&指&1&天&前&Kevin Love. I don't know a single Wolves fan who wasn't disappointed when we traded O.J. Mayo for him on draft night. Boy were we wrong..凯文-乐福。当年选秀夜我们拿换他的时候我认识的狼蜜没有一个不失望。这脸被打的。。。&[C]Pistons&1&指&13&小r&前&If I remember correctly, the top 3 for rookie of the year was Rose, Westbrook, and Mayo. He started off OK, but has really faltered since.如果我没记错，新秀赛季前三是罗斯、威少和梅奥。他刚进联盟确实还行，不过从那之后就开始踉踉跄跄了。&[C]Trail Blazers&39&指&1&天&前&DeAndre Jordan really shut me up this season.这个赛季的德安德鲁-乔丹真是让我闭嘴惊艳了。&[C]Raptors&9&指&1&天&前&Probably because he finally gets PT. Vinny was too scared to play him big minutes, but Doc let him free.可能是因为他总算拿到出场时间了吧。尼格罗总是很怕用他打太长时间，但是里弗斯就让他自由发挥。&[C]Kings&5&指&1&天&前*&I think there was a lot of "third guy" mentality in people too, right after the CP3-Blake "Lob City" duo formed. People didn't know where he could fit in. But his game has evolved so much that he fits in right into the team now.我觉得因为有了保罗-格里芬的“空接之城”组合，很多人也都会产生谁是“第三人”的心态。人们不知道他要怎么融入球队。但是他现在的比赛已经进步了很多，与球队也完美契合。&[C]Lakers&7&指&19&小r&前&I would argue that his game hasn't even evolved. He's still the same player, he just has a coach who actually knows what the fuck he's doing with the guy now. Vinny never played DJ in the 4th Quarter and never ran him for 30 minutes per game. Doc has DJ as the anchor on defense and as a pick and roll stud on offense. It's night and day how misused DJ was with VDN as head coach. All that happened was Doc Rivers told DJ to rebound and play defense, and your points will just come...basically what Phil Jackson told Andrew Bynum during the Lakers repeat.I'm a huge DJ fan now. Even though I'm a Lakers fan and we're supposed to hate the Clippers (I think), Deandre Jordan is one of my favorite players in the league. Love his personality and his passion. I only expect him to put up better numbers now this his confidence is raising. He'll never be a 20ppg scorer, but I can see him as a 13 pts,13 rbs, and 2.5/3 blocks per game guy next year, which is extremely valuable to any team.说他比赛没进步这点我不同意。他还是同样的球员，只是现在有一个真正懂应该让他干啥的教练。尼格罗从没在第四节派小乔丹上过场，也不会给他场均30分钟的出场时间。里弗斯让小乔丹在防守端充当大闸，进攻端做挡拆。尼格罗当教练时完全是瞎B使用小乔丹。里弗斯只是告诉小乔丹去抢篮板做好防守，得分自然水到渠成，……基本就是复制菲尔-杰克逊在湖人让安德烈-拜纳姆做的。我现在也很喜欢小乔丹了。即便我是湖人球迷，按理说应该要讨厌（我认为），但小乔丹是我联盟中最爱的球员之一。喜欢他的个性和热情。现在他的自信心已经培养起来了我只希望他能打出更好的数据来。他永远不可能场均20分，但是我觉得13+13，外加2.5或3个盖帽的场均还是下赛季可期的，能到这水平每个球队都会得到重用。&[C]Thunder&2&指&13&小r&前&He still can't shoot free throws, and it's not like he's Shaq.他还是不怎么能罚球啊，他又不是奥胖这怎么行。&[C]Trail Blazers&1&指&12&小r&前&if Shaq is the bar we're holding everyone up to, nobody's any good.如果拿奥胖来做标杆，没人能做到和他一样好。&[C]Thunder&2&指&12&小r&前&A lot of people are really good at free throws though, compared to Shaq. It's not a super difficult skill to work on.很多人罚球都比奥胖好，这又不是一项很难练出来的技能。[C]&92&指&1&天&前&Westbrook, he's all athleticism but damn a triple double is a triple double维斯布鲁克，他靠的是身体素质，但三双就是三双啊。&[C]Celtics&16&指&1&天&前&I think he is a really good playmaker我认为他是一个很出色的进攻组织者。&[C]NBA&3&指&16&小r&前&I think he's the literal definition of a playmaker. Not a great passer, not a great assist man, but a playmaker. Dude can run by everyone and even when he takes a crazy out of control layup, he's making a better opportunity for someone to clean up or the defence to collapse next time. Dude KILLS IT我觉得他就是进攻组织者的准确定义。不是一个极佳的传球手，也不是助攻男，但是却是进攻大脑。这家伙跑得比谁都快，失去控制的情况下完成一些夸张的上篮，下回合他的队友就空了，要不防守方就只能目送。哥们太拧[C][GSW] Draymond Green&13&指&1&天&前&He gets so pumped up, it's insane他总是那么亢奋，简直不可思议。&[C]Spurs&36&指&1&天&前&Still makes some boneheaded decisions, especially during crunch-time, but dammit if he isn't the most versatile Guard in the league.还是有时候会XJBD啦，尤其是在关键时刻，但是他绝对是联盟里最全能的后卫。&[C]Spurs&5&指&15&小r&前&His decision making reminds me of Manu at times. They both take a lot of risks, and many times they pay off in fantastic fashion, but when they don't they look dreadful. With that said, at this point in Manu's career along with what he's brought to the team throughout his career, I can look past any mistakes he makes in games. Westbrook probably isn't at that point in his career yet.看他的场上选择有时候会让我想起马努。他们都会冒很高风险，很多时候他们打成了美如画的进球，但是如果打不成简直气死人。按这种说法，现在再看马努职业生涯里为球队贡献的那些，我可以无视他在比赛里犯过的那些错误。威少的职业生涯还没有到那个地步。[C]Bulls&61&指&1&天&前&Joakim Noah. hated it when he was drafted, loved him like 2 years later乔金-诺阿。当年选中他的时候很讨厌他，2年后就爱上他了。&[C]Bullets&25&指&1&天&前&This was the first name that came to mind for me too. I still hate him, but obviously I can't call him overrated. If anything, it makes me angry that casual fans don't view him as a star.这也是我第一时间想到的。我还是很讨厌他，但是我不会说他被高估了。如果有什么惹恼我，那就是普通球迷都不把他当球星看待。&[C]&1&指&21&小r&前&Joakim Noah ... saw him in his rookie year and I was like this guy will not make it ... he proved me wrong乔金-诺阿……看他的新秀赛季，我认为他完全不会成功……我错了。[C]Bulls&8&指&1&天&前&我爱上他的一瞬间[C]Bucks&54&指&1&天&前&I wasn't sold on Tony Parker. Then the 06-07 season happened. I realized just how misguided my point of view was. He wasn't riding Duncans coat tails, he was running that offense.我以前觉得托尼-不太让人信服。然后就有了06-07赛季。我意识到我有多眼瘸。他不是搭的顺风车，他在进攻端呼风唤雨。&[C]Wizards&30&指&1&天&前&You weren't that misguided. He just got better. He played like a chicken with his head cut off for a while. The Spurs tried to lure Jason Kidd in to replace him.不是你眼瘸，他只是变好了。他有一阵儿打的像个无头苍蝇一样。马刺曾经想撸来贾森-基德换掉他。&[C]Celtics&54&指&1&天&前&Well to be fair Jason Kidd used to be really good.实话实说，贾森-基德曾经非常拧&[C]Spurs&2&指&15&小r&前&And that was when Kidd was at the peak of his prime. It was rumored right after the Spurs beat the Nets in '03 that Kidd might go to SA.那是基德正巅峰的时候。据传03年马刺击败网队的时候基德有意前往圣安东尼奥。&[C]Spurs&12&指&1&天&前&Supposedly Pop's plan was to move Parker to SG if Kidd came. Hard to imagine him being the player he is today if that all worked out.恐怕如果基德真的来了，波波维奇会拿帕克换去换一个分卫。很难想象如果都成真，帕克还能成为今天的帕克。[C]Spurs&2&指&1&天&前&Yeah. Playoff Parker from 02-06 wasn't All-Star caliber. He really raised his game in 07.是啊。02到06年帕克的季后赛表现真配不上全明星水准。他在07年完成质变。[C]Jazz&2&指&1&天&前&I thought he should've won MVP in the
season the way he was CARRYING the spurs to the 1 seed.我觉得他应该获得12到13赛季常规赛MVP，他几乎凭一己之力把马刺带到一号种子。&[C]Spurs&1&指&1&天&前&I think 2013 was definitely his best season. It's either '09 or '13.我认为2013赛季是他最好的赛季。不是09就是13了。[C]Bulls&11&指&1&天&前&Monta Ellis. I thought he was an undersized guard that was just a chucker, but his play last season in Dallas proved that he can be an efficient scorer.蒙塔-埃利斯。他是个矮小的后卫，而且喜欢自顾自乱扔，但是上赛季在达拉斯他证明了自己可以当一个高效的得分手。&[C]Spurs&9&指&1&天&前&Monta ellis have it all.蒙塔-埃利斯要啥有啥。&[C][DAL] Dirk Nowitzki&5&指&20&小r&前&Just shows how much a difference a coach makes. Of course he's gonna look like a chucker under a coach like Don Nelson, but it changed when he started playing for Rick Carlisle.这完全是教练的差距。他在唐-尼尔森手下当然像个投篮员，但是在里克-卡莱尔手下打球就都改了。&[C]Bucks&2&指&1&天&前&Well to be fair, that's what he was in Milwaukee.实话讲，他是在雄鹿才那样。[C]Raptors&11&指&1&天&前*&Joe Johnson. Honestly, he's insanely skilled and clutch. Nearly un-guardable against us in the playoffs and shit on us, and is like 10/10 on game-winning shots over the last couple of years (he has like 3 buzzer beater's to win the game every season). You can't put a price on that, even though he might be a little overpaid.乔-约翰逊。真心的，他技术赞又大心脏。季后赛对猛龙也是为所欲为无法防范，而且过去几年好像制胜球是10投10中（他大概每个赛季都要投中3个压哨）。你无法给他贴上标价，尽管他的薪水还是有点溢价。&[C]Hawks&2&指&17&小r&前&JJ's always been really good, just a bit of a victim of system's in ATL and Brooklyn. Iso Joe was not a good game plan for anyone in Atlanta, and I'd imagine in Bud's offense he'd be elite.迳恢倍己馨簦皇窃诶嫌ズ屠和奶逑的谟械阄约毫恕６匝翘乩即罄此档ゴ蚯蔷圆皇且桓龊谜绞酰绻诓嫉腔粼蟮慕ヌ逑荡蚯蛩岢晌[C]&32&指&1&天&前&Derrick Rose. I remember wanting the Bulls to draft Beasley instead (I know, why am I not a GM). Thought his lack of jumpshot would hinder him in NBA….. should've known it'd be the legs.德里克-罗斯。我记得我曾经希望可以选到（所以我不能当总经理r(￣￣”)q）。以为他的跳投技能不足会成为他在NBA的绊脚石……谁又能知道是膝盖呢。&[C]Raptors&12&指&1&天&前&Demar Derozan. I didn't know he had it in him to get to all star level and make team USA. 23/5/4 avgs last year... Love this kids work ethic and growth德玛尔-。我没想到他能达到全明星水准还可以入选美国队。上赛季23+5+4，喜欢他的投入和成长。[C]Raptors&6&指&1&天&前&The 2009 NBA draftThoughtBlake was just a dunkerSteph is too small, too skinny to play SG, not fast enough to play PGDeRozan is just a volume scorer and dunker. vastly overpaidTyler Hansbrough wouldn't last 3 years in the leagueTy Lawson is too short to ball with the best2009年NBA选秀都耳光响亮曾以为格里芬只是个扣将；库里太小只太瘦所以打不了分卫，又不够快打不了控卫；德罗赞会只是个得分机器及扣将，溢价严重；泰勒-汉斯布鲁在NBA撑不过3年；泰-劳森太矮，很难跟好手对抗。[C]Pistons&20&指&1&天&前&Danny Green丹尼-格林&[C]Nuggets&14&指&1&天&前&man. love me some danny green. great story. D league to NBA finals record holder and maybe the quintessential 3&D guy in the league.赞丹尼-格林。很棒的故事。从发展联盟到NBA总决赛纪录保持着而且可能是联盟中最纯粹的3D球员。&[C]Spurs&7&指&1&天&前&Don't forget that he was cut three times, twice by the Spurs.别忘了他曾经被裁掉3次，其中2次是被马刺裁的。&[C]Heat&38&指&1&天&前&Paul George. Throughout the 2013 playoffs and 2013-14 regular season, I thought he was a good player but not as great as people made him out to be... then game 5 these past playoffs happened. Dude is talented and clutch as fuck.Inconsistent though.保罗-乔治。整个2013年季后赛和13-14常规赛季，我以前觉得他只是个不错的球员但是没有人们吹嘘的那么厉害。然后就看到季后赛第五场。哥们有天赋又特么有大心脏。不过表现持续性不够好。&[C]Trail Blazers&25&指&1&天&前&I'm still not sold on him offensively. He needs to work on his handles and get to the foul line more before I consider him a superstar.他的进攻我不是很买账。控球需要完善，也需要多冲击罚球线，那时候我才会承认他是超巨。&[C]76ers&13&指&1&天&前&If you drop 37 to beat the defending champs in a win or go home game, while on a team that's falling apart in front of you, you're a superstar.如果你的球队已经在你面前支离破碎了，你还能在对阵卫冕冠军的天王山之战砍下37分，那你就是超巨无疑。&[C]Bulls&48&指&1&天&前&You can't base someone being a superstar off of 1 game.超巨怎么能只看一场球。&[C]NBA&14&指&1&天&前&Reggie Jackson superstar confirmed雷吉-杰克逊超巨无疑。&[C]76ers&10&指&1&天&前&No, but he averaged 20+ in the regular season while providing elite defense. Tamhis ge proved his clutch ability too, which is a big part of being a superstar.是不能只看一场，不过他常规赛中在防守端闪耀的同时能场均20+。这场球也展现了他的绝杀能力，也是超巨必备素质之一。&[C]&9&指&1&天&前&He also shot 42%. He doesn't have an elite offensive game yet. I don't think he's really superstar level at this point命中率只有42%，他在进攻端还没怎么亮过，我不觉得他现在的水平够得上超巨。&[C]Bulls&11&指&1&天&前&I think his defense makes up for it though. A lot of people consider Harden a superstar despite being a defensive liability, though not as bad as people think. So why can't a defensive stopper who has a good offensive game and who lead a 1 seed to two consecutive ECF's not be.我觉得防守在一定程度上弥补了这个差距。很多人都认为哈登是超巨，防守还不一样是个累赘，当然没有人们想的那么差。所以为啥一个进攻还不错的，同时是很棒的防守拦截者，然后连续两次率领球队进入东决的球员不能称得上超巨？&[C]Pistons&3&指&10&小r&前&You are correct, but for better or worse, probably worse, fans think offense is sexier.James Harden:elite offense + subpar defense = superstarPaul George:average offense + elite defense = all star (a step below superstar)Even though George has greater all around ability.你说的没错，不过不论好坏，也许更糟，球迷都会觉得进攻更性感一些。哈登：华丽的进攻+严重不咋地防守=超巨泡椒：平均水平的进攻+华丽的防守=全明星（比超巨低一档）尽管乔治更全能。&[C]Bulls&2&指&9&小r&前&Well because offense is more fun to watch and is easier to see in stats. Also I'd consider PG at least decent offensively. He's not average. The average player can't get 20 points per game.那是因为进攻更好看，数据也更容易体现。我也认为泡椒的进攻水平至少是很棒的，不是刚及格那种。普通球员做不到场均20分。[C]Spurs&5&指&16&小r&前&Kawhi Leonard, I couldn't believe we traded away George Hill for him, three years later - Finals MVP科怀-伦纳德，我依然不敢相信我们拿他换了乔治-希尔，三年之后――总决赛MVP。&[C]Thunder&2&指&12&小r&前*&Same. Whenever we played the Spurs, I would hear all the announcers suck Leonard's dick. "Oh, this kid is going to be an All-Star. He's really something."But I wasn't seeing it. I knew he played D on KD, possibly the best behind Tony Allen. He made a nice move to the basket every now and then, made an open 3. But nothing that blew me away.But then....that strip on Russ's potential winning layup in Game 6....that Finals performance. *shudders*I always knew Diaw was the shit because he tore the Thunder up. So when he balled out against the Heat and in the World Cup, I already knew he was a badass. But Kawhi, shit man. He's the real deal, a franchise player.&Who knows what happens if Russ makes that shot.我也一样。任何时候打马刺，我都会听到那些广播员舔跪伦纳德。“天惹，这孩子会成为全明星，他真是块宝。”但是我当时看不出。他防守阿杜防的还行，大概仅次于托尼-阿伦了。时不时冲击篮筐的脚步很好，有空位三分，但是都不能让我为之倾倒。但是然后……在威少第六场迈向胜利的那个上篮头上的关键盖帽，还有后面总决赛的表现……我一直都知道迪奥很乓蛭牙做鹆恕Ｋ缘彼诙钥谷然鹨约笆澜绫戏聘灿晔保乙丫浪嗟崩骱Α５强ㄍ垡琳庑∽樱娌氖盗希信魄蛟薄给威少那一帽注定载入季后赛史册，谁知道如果威少进了那个球剧本会怎么写。&[C]&18&指&1&天&前&Klay Thompson always came across as a bit overrated but afetr having watched him play in FIBA and this past year, I think he's well deserving of his praise克莱-汤普森总是会被高估，但是看过他上赛季和FIBA世界杯的表现，我觉得他对得起对他的赞美。&[C]Spurs&1&指&1&天&前&How do you feel about giving him a max deal and do you think he'll accept something smaller - like 48/4 years?那你觉得是给他个顶薪呢还是说认为他会接受小一点的合同，比如4年4800万？&[C][GSW] Mitch Richmond&4&指&1&天&前&I hope he will- at current pace, 48/4 seems reasonable next year.我希望他会接受啊，按照目前的节奏，明年4年4800看起来挺合理的。&[C]&8&指&1&天&前&Parsons got 46/3 this year, there is no chance Thompson doesn't get max money.帕森斯都拿到了3年4600万，汤普森没理由不拿顶薪。&[C]Timberwolves&3&指&23&小r&前&I think that Parsons contract is gonna be something quite a few teams regret going into salary negotiations. Market price for slightly above average wings just went way up.我觉得帕森斯的合同会让相当一部分球队后悔薪资谈判，侧翼球员的市场价值略微高过平均线，溢价了。&[C]Warriors&2&指&23&小r&前&i would like him to take 65/5我会给他5年6500万。&[C]Warriors&2&指&1&天&前&We'd be shitting bricks happy if he took just 4/48. It won't happen though, he has all the leverage. He plays more minutes than just about anyone, and runs more distance on the court than anyone.At this point I'd just be happy if he took like 4/56 before the Oct31 deadline, so that we're even saving maybe 1m a year.如果能谈到4年4800万我们就真特么笑坏了。不过没可能啦，筹码都在他那边。他的比赛时间、场上跑动距离比任何人都长。在这个节骨眼上如果10月31日截止日前能4年5600万拿下他我就开心死了，这样我们每年差不多能省下100万呢。[C]Lakers&1&指&22&小r&前&In recent memory, both the Kentucky bros John Wall and Boogie proved themselves to me this past season, both playing solid throughout.最近来看，肯塔基兄弟约翰-和表妹都在过去这个赛季证明了自己，自始至终表现得稳定扎实。&[C]Warriors&1&指&1&天&前*&Well he was never overrated but I hated on BDD so hard his rookie season with the Warriors. He was shooting like 19% from 3 pt range and yet he kept chucking up shots with nobody within 10 feet of him contesting the shot, and clanking it every time. I admired his hustle on the defensive end, but he had a tendency to foul way too often. I hated him, wanted him to lose his minutes, get off the team.He transformed over that offseason. Lost a ton of weight, managed to increase his wide-open-3-pt-fg% to like 32-35%, and became an absolute leader on the defensive end, guarding 5 positions嗯有个人从来没被高估过但是我超级讨厌BBD在勇士的新秀赛季。他那会大概只有19%的三分命中吧，却还是狂扔不止，身边十尺之内没人防守他都能次次打铁。我是很欣赏他在防守端的奋不顾身啦，但是他又很爱犯规。我讨厌他，希望他不要上场，离开球队。那个休赛期他就进化了。减了很多体重，空位3分提升到32%-35%的命中，成为防守中坚力量，防守1到5号位。[C]Warriors&3&指&18&小r&前&Who is BDD? Seems like I should know this?谁是BDD？我似乎需要认识他一下。&[C]Toronto Huskies&1&指&16&小r&前&BDD Big DICK DrayBDD就是大--德。&[C]Timberwolves&1&指&16&小r&前&Big Dick Draymond(Green).大-JB-德雷蒙德（格林）。&[C]Warriors&1&指&16&小r&前&Never heard that. Hands down the best nickname in the NBA, easily beating Swaggy P.从没听说过呢。给这些NBA最佳绰号跪了，完爆尼克扬的外号。&[C]Warriors&4&指&14&小r&前&I'm surprised you've never heard it lol, you'll definitely be hearing more and more of it when you hang around reddit, especially the live gamethreads.你竟然从没听过这个外号23333，如果你多混reddit肯定会越来越熟悉这个名字，尤其是直播帖里。&手工作业，有误请指出。&前期回顾：订阅请@JRS之声粉丝QQ群：<font color="#ff087 &JRS之声翻译爱好者以及对JRS之声创作有兴趣的JR加二群：<font color="#ff545 &进群必须注明IDPS：1.转载请务必标明出处和链接，尤其是包卜网，直播吧，百度贴吧，ACFUN和新浪。2、转载时请注明本人ID，以及虎扑【美国JRS之声】，不要写错。[ 此帖被破车求给力在 11:53修改 ]
Keep it light, don't get too involved, don't get too hurt.
"Mama, there goes that man!"
Hello,我是“三年老勇蜜”
这些回帖亮了
保罗乔治，虽然我很喜欢他这种运动能力强的侧翼，但是我觉得他不算4大小前锋之列
后来真的是被打脸了
必须有豪哥啊！脸都打肿了
凯文-乐福。当年选秀夜我们拿梅奥换他的时候我认识的狼蜜没有一个不失望。这脸被打的。。。
勒布朗詹姆斯，之前我总觉得他被高估了。后来脸都肿成猪头了……发自手机虎扑
曾经我一直以为阿尔德里奇被高估，季后赛被他打脸了。。。[ 此帖被灬皇帝lbj在 11:52修改 ]
刚进联盟被他扣篮吸引，一直很喜欢他，可是总觉得个人进攻能力有限，不适合当核心。可是上赛季打得真是太好了！
突然想到类似的还有小斯，刚到尼克斯的时候华丽的进攻手段亮瞎了我。只可惜……
引用1楼 @ 发表的:
安东尼戴维斯。。。
放心，还没打够
有格里芬和小乔丹，看来保罗功不可没啊
必须是库里啊，
以前看他那么瘦弱还老受伤，感觉肯定水掉变路人。 谁知现在那么给力& 本人现在也是他的粉
Kawhi Leonard, I couldn't believe we traded away George Hill for him, three years later - Finals MVP
科怀-伦纳德，我依然不敢相信我们拿他换了乔治-希尔，三年之后――总决赛MVP。
想当年帕克因伤赛季上场不多，乔治-希尔那赛季表现很不错！我也不敢相信拿他去换了个首轮不确定的家伙！想不到卡哇伊狠狠打了我脸...
还有一位打我脸很痛的球员。当年刚看球一两年老想他怎么能做国家队的主力控卫？一个老是自己运球XJBD的。看着他退出国家队后的控卫，原来刘大也是FIBA的一流控卫啊！刘大退役后为自己正名了！[ 此帖被翘臀美腿控在 11:59修改 ]
哈登，在雷霆的时候觉得他没货，顶多是个二流。结果从12年和小牛的系列赛后开始服了，再后来刚去火箭前几场比赛，感觉就像一个饿了好几天的流浪汉啃汉堡似的，得分根本听不下来
安东尼戴维斯。。。发自手机虎扑
曾经认为保罗要身体没身体要速度没速度
妥妥的防守大漏洞被德隆秒
后来就没有后来了
一直以为格里芬除了能蹦没优点
直到今年季后赛打雷霆发现脚步中投都出来了
翻译作品链接：
原文标题： What player did you think was overrated, but eventually proved themselves to you?
原文链接：
译者： 破车求给力
备注：
说下哈登，火箭递上5年8000万，湿乎乎一大片：火箭见着个明星就急着抢，哈登打第六人面对的是对方替补的防守，其实不怎么样，而且经常靠二少吸引防守才有的机会。事实证明哈登绝对的巨星[ 此帖被可爱的宇杰在 13:56修改 ]
安东尼戴维斯。。。发自手机虎扑
翻译作品链接：
原文标题： What player did you think was overrated, but eventually proved themselves to you?
原文链接：
译者： 破车求给力
备注：
Keep it light, don't get too involved, don't get too hurt.
"Mama, there goes that man!"
Hello,我是“三年老勇蜜”
看看来不及来没来
天空飘过五个大字，那都不是事。天空又飘过五个字，是事就一会。
曾经我一直以为阿尔德里奇被高估，季后赛被他打脸了。。。[ 此帖被灬皇帝lbj在 11:52修改 ]
召唤术完毕
凯文-乐福。当年选秀夜我们拿梅奥换他的时候我认识的狼蜜没有一个不失望。这脸被打的。。。
有些人，在心底从未忘记；有些事、有些梦，还找不到谜底；有些话，越欲言又止，就越是动听…
看完后才回复的，居然还在8楼。看到哈登和泡椒的比较，想说句其实假如总经理也有“你以为被高估”的人选的话，莫雷是候选人之一。看看这个名单――哈登、火花、帕帅、阿西克、马丁、德拉季奇、洛瑞，甚至林书豪和二防贝弗利，作为一个总经理的生涯前8年，能搞到这些家伙的总经理，非同一般。而且很有意思的是，他也是“最终表现却打了你的脸”的家伙。还记得12赛季开始前，休赛期不惊不澜，结果突然搞来一个哈登……那时国内论坛上对他的评价完全是从地到天的变化。[ 此帖被NBA关系者在 11:59修改 ]
请务必明白，我只是一个马甲。
必须是库里啊，
以前看他那么瘦弱还老受伤，感觉肯定水掉变路人。 谁知现在那么给力& 本人现在也是他的粉
纯情处男吴亦凡，安全驾驶李易峰
清纯可人范冰冰，天真烂漫陈冠希
08年新秀威少打了多少人的脸发自手机虎扑
第一分卫吧，不是说他没有超巨的实力，而是没有超巨的态度。至少世锦赛他的表现算是打我脸了，不过我对他依然持观望态度，他的防守能不能维持82场比赛还不一定
说下哈登，火箭递上5年8000万，湿乎乎一大片：火箭见着个明星就急着抢，哈登打第六人面对的是对方替补的防守，其实不怎么样，而且经常靠二少吸引防守才有的机会。事实证明哈登绝对的巨星[ 此帖被可爱的宇杰在 13:56修改 ]
宇杰是可爱小外甥的名字！
Kawhi Leonard, I couldn't believe we traded away George Hill for him, three years later - Finals MVP
科怀-伦纳德，我依然不敢相信我们拿他换了乔治-希尔，三年之后――总决赛MVP。
想当年帕克因伤赛季上场不多，乔治-希尔那赛季表现很不错！我也不敢相信拿他去换了个首轮不确定的家伙！想不到卡哇伊狠狠打了我脸...
还有一位打我脸很痛的球员。当年刚看球一两年老想他怎么能做国家队的主力控卫？一个老是自己运球XJBD的。看着他退出国家队后的控卫，原来刘大也是FIBA的一流控卫啊！刘大退役后为自己正名了！[ 此帖被翘臀美腿控在 11:59修改 ]
跳投是艺术
引用1楼 @ 发表的:
安东尼戴维斯。。。
放心，还没打够
科比 布莱恩特
一路的平坦和光鲜是给别人看的，过程中的泥泞和彷徨却只有自己才清楚。
看完满脑子都是有大JB外号的格林。
望细观吾言，不知可亮否？
No chance.No chance.No chance at all.
别的不说，反正总决赛第三场过后卡哇伊狠狠打了很多人的脸，(需要挖坟吗？)
我干过的这人 当初换希尔让我对其第一感觉就很排斥 加上我觉得马刺这种球队有一个地垄沟发型很蹩脚 而当初各媒体居然普遍看好他没想到啊没想到 半年后我就成为了丧心病狂的莱吹[ 此帖被我干过莱昂纳德在 12:09修改 ]
林书豪啊，打了多少人的脸
有格里芬和小乔丹，看来保罗功不可没啊
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