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Ubuntu xorg-server update breaks X: " o scree found
August 23, 2006 (8:00:00 AM) IRC cha els, LUG mailing lists, and
were buzzing with the news this morning that a recent Ubuntu Xorg update (xorg-server 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3) crashes the X Window System on some video hardware.
When X is restarted following i tallation, affected Ubuntu users get a " o scree found error me age i tead of X.
The Dell I iron 6400 with an ATI video card, Dell I iron 8600 with an Nvidia 5200 card, Dell Latitude D620 with Nvidia Quadro NVS 110M video card, and Hewlett-Packard NX6125 are among the systems reported as being bitten by this bug.
One workaround being
is to downgrade to the previous version of Xorg by entering the following commands:
sudo apt-get i tall xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
A better workaround a ears to be upgrading to xorg-server 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4, after verifying that it is available in your repositories.
To check and see if it is available to you, use the following commands:
sudo apt-get update
apt-cache -f search xserver-xorg-core
If the 10.4 version listed, then proceed with:
sudo apt-get upgrade
Of course, if you haven't upgraded to 10.3 yet, don't. Related Links
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I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 08:56 AM
I'll LMAO if they have any visio of beating Redhat or Novell much le A le or Microsoft.
This is your typical open source BS - little or no money being ent on Q/A and testing. Just take what everybody else is using for free - slap it together and call it Ubuntu - whoohooo. Exactly what has ubuntu contributed back to Linux?
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 08:12 PM
Shut that a of yours you call a mouth, Debian troll. Every time you open it. more shit comes out of it.
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
bigtreeman
August 24, 2006 09:31 PM
I've used Debian and many derivatives including Ubuntu over the years, but I always go back to Debian Stable. Debian u table and testing move like quick sand and by their nature contain bugs which are co tantly being resolved.
I'm always amused how the youngn's jump at the latest and ?greatest?
No one small company can match the thousand plus developers toil and years of accumulated wisdom which goes into Debian.
Be patient and wait for the next stable for all the newest features, well worth the wait.
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
Curtman
August 25, 2006 06:20 AM
Be patient and wait for the next stable for all the newest features, well worth the wait.
Uh-huh..
Debian stable, with such things as a href=http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/mozilla-firefox title=debian.orgFirefox v1.0.4/a debian.org, a href=http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/xfree86-commo quot; title=debian.org
XFree86
v4.3.0/a debian.org, etc, etc..
Debian stable
should be renamed
Debian deprecated
Sure it's stable, but only because it's ancient, and only for certain values of stable.
It might be fine for gra ie who probably still has Windows 95 anyway, but anyone who is the slightest bit interested in software won't stay on stable for long. Has it got a Linux v2.6 kernel yet at least?
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
bigtreeman
August 25, 2006 03:24 PM
I do hope your using ntfs-3g already, oh bad luck it's not in u table, I've been using it for months now< obr wbr/nobr> -P
The Openoffice 2.03 kee updating, mine stays the same because I built it and it work lt obr wbr/nobr> -P
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
Curtman
August 25, 2006 08:38 PM
I do hope your using ntfs-3g already, oh bad luck it's not in u table, I've been using it for months now< obr wbr/nobr> -P
I'm not using it because I don't have any ntfs partitio to use it with.
I didn't even say anything about what
was using. I use Gentoo at home (One server, 4 semi-diskle clients), and Ubuntu for friends and family.
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 25, 2006 11:55 PM
exactly my impre ion also. Lots of the Debian folk
is ru ing still 2.4 because it is more " table... whatever that mea .
Remember the lack of security patches at Debian about an year ago?
I prefer using some u table but security-fixed software...
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
angulion
August 25, 2006 07:06 PM
Debian stable is usually so old that it i 't even working on recent hardware, that's my problem.
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
bigtreeman
August 27, 2006 07:04 AM
Lets turn this bit of flame baiting into something positive.
Check out module-a istant, now go look around for modules needed by your hardware. Doe 't matter if they're proprietory or open.
I'm using rt2500 modules (open), the most recent alsa (open), nVidia, Intel, Sis, Ati (proprietory)
Compile them up and use them. You have now become one up on yu y newbies who 'just luv Ubuntu' you have functionality and security and your getting your hands dirty learning how Linux works.
When Debian release security update kernels, they will stay the same # 2.6-8-X your modules still work without recompiling. I'm using Mozilla 1.7.8 but it has all security updates. All Debian packages get security updates through the magic of apt-get update/upgrade, when only the best is good enough.
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 11:57 PM
Other distributiuo have also released patches that broke things.
It was an error.
A bad one, but one that is easily fixed.
Why are you so quick to jump down Ubuntu's throat?
Did you react the same way when Red Hat released a bad patch the broke some systems?
Do you hate all open source, or just Ubuntu.
What is the reason for this anger?
Did your mother treat you badly as a child.
Did she keep the cookie recipe a secret from you?
Re:I've been saying Ubuntu is crap
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 25, 2006 04:05 PM
Yeah, as if Microsoft s**tware never breaks. Or succum to viruses. Or needs rebooting five times just to i tall one. sodding. patch.
A Victory for Microsoft's Pollute Linux Strategy
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 26, 2006 05:31 AM
Microsoft can't hurt Linux as long as it uses Free and Open Source software.
Thus, one of Microsoft's strategies has been to make Linux dependent on proprietary software and protocols, where Microsoft has some control (often working through proxies, to hide their actio ).
Two examples of this are Microsoft's push for< obr wbr/nobr.Net and DRM over the Internet.
Another is NVidia's and ATI's proprietary video drivers.
A few years ago, both NVidia, and (e ecially) ATI, were providing technical su ort for projects developing Open Source Linux drivers for their video cards.
Then, Microsoft contracted with NVidia to be a su lier for the XBox, following which NVidia hired up the NVidia driver developers, and sto ed them from working on the Open Source driver, to work on closed source NVidia drivers i tead. Likewise, when Microsoft contracted with ATI to be an XBox su lier, ATI sto ed su lying technical information for the Open Source ATI driver project.
Since then, we have been inundated with astroturf making the ridiculous claim that there is no danger in using closed source drivers with Open Source Linux.
Now, those chicke have come home to roost.
The reason that there is a problem here is not Ubuntu's fault. On the contrary, it is the fault of the closed source NVidia and ATI drivers.
For starters, the closed source nature of those drivers makes it much harder to test and debug problems with using those drivers.
Plus, when new features depend on corre onding changes in the drivers, we are left with a choice between some users (the proprietary driver users) having compatibility problems, or leaving the new features out of Linux until the proprietary driver manufacturers manage to catch up.
Those sorts of situatio -- delayed development, and usability problems -- are part of a strategy that Microsoft calls " utting the competition on the treadmill. It is just what Microsoft intended when they acted to push closed source NVidia and ATI drivers onto Linux.
Fedora has already run into problems with the closed source NVidia and ATI drivers, when they tried to add su ort for X.org 7.1, with some great new XGL features:
a href=http://lwn.net/Articles/195351/ title=lwn.nethttp://lwn.net/Articles/195351//a lwn.net
Fedora's decision was to leave out X.org 7.1 su ort to avoid problems like those experienced by some Ubuntu users. It has been eculated that NVidia and ATI will intentionally delay updating their Linux drivers until Microsoft can add similar XGL-like features into Vista.
Personally, I think Fedora's decision to delay the new features was wrong. Those Fedora users who chose to run closed source drivers made their choice, with full knowledge that they were making themselves dependent on closed source companies (not to mention friends of Microsoft) to provide timely driver updates. It is wrong to hold back features that Open Source Linux users could enjoy, in order to accomodate users who are choosing to pollute their systems with closed source drivers.
Finally, part of Microsoft's strategy is that, when problems occur, users will blame Linux, i tead of the closed source drivers.
And that's exactly what has ha ened here. Even Joe Barr was fooled.
workaround
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 23, 2006 11:34 PM
Upgrading to< obr wbr/nobr.4 i 't a workaround -- that package version is the proper fix.
Re:fundamental problem
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 12:30 AM
I'm afraid that the " ome hardware was in fact almost all hardware.
ATI, Nvidia and even a Matrox owner all reported a dead X.
The Ubuntu guys did jump on it as soon as they knew there was a problem.
And they acknowledged it.
What would be a good idea for them would be for some official word to come out about it so that people's understanding of things is not limited to what they saw of the X blackout.
Re:fundamental problem
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 03:16 AM
I agree - almost all hardware crashed. Testing must have been nearly zero. I have a five year old Nvdia GeForce2 card and the boot proce hung.
I had to reboot into windows to read the forums, then do apt-get to upgrade to 10.4.
So much for user-friendly, 'Let's replace windows!'
This is just not good enough.
Re:fundamental problem
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 04:48 AM
This killed two evenings. I also ent a lot of time just going back and forth between windows and Ubuntu, forum-ho ing for a solution. I have thoroughly loved the whole Ubuntu experience except for this and would hope they use it as a cautionary tale for future releases.
Re:fundamental problem
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 08:34 AM
I am with you on loving the Ubuntu experience.
That's what has me frustrated that they don't send something out, telling people what ha ened, why and why it never will ha en again...
Re:fundamental problem
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 02:33 PM
I am with you on loving the Ubuntu experience.
Sounds like an A le user
SCNR< obr wbr/nobr> -)
Re:fundamental problem
Posted by:
Administrator
August 24, 2006 08:34 AM
So much for user-friendly, 'Let's replace windows!'
This is just not good enough.
Oh please.
Have you see what ha ened to WinXP when the last Service Pack was released (SP2 I believe)?
I don't know how many people called me to help them with it.
In most cases it required a complete rei tall of XP (leaving out SP2, OC).
Having X barf is nothing compared to having to do a wipe and rei tall.
Not only that, the X fix was out within, what, hours?
We're still waiting for MS to fix the bugs in XP that were present in NT 3.0 which have been faithfully brought over to each OS upgrade.
I'll bet Vista has them as well.
Re:fundamental problem
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 08:53 PM
All hardware is right - I've got a via unichrome in my laptop and got nailed as well...
Not just Ubuntu - Debian I ue
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 05:25 AM
a href=http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/08/msg01007.html title=debian.orghttp://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/08/msg0< obr1wbr/nobr 007.html/a debian.org
Re:Not just Ubuntu - Debian I ue
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 05:18 PM
Debian U table is Debian's bleeding edge development branch while Da er Drake is su osed to be Ubuntu's enterprise quality stable release with Long Term Su ort.
So an update that breaks X is a whole lot more serious problem in Ubuntu Da er than it is in Debian U table. Bugs that occasionally break the system are only to be expected in a development branch but in a stable release such blunders should not ha en.
Re:Not just Ubuntu - Debian I ue
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 26, 2006 03:30 AM
not trying to troll but I seem to remember a problem with getting security patches to Debian stable some time ago.. As for Ubuntu I gue Linux for human beings mea it's made by huma too.
Testing sure was nonexistent, as this X.org problem occurred on very common hardware, on my machine too, but the problem was fixed in hours in the offical repos. So by the time I rebooted and saw the problem, an apt-get upgrade fixed it i tantly.
Goes to show again that even the simplest system administration like i talling patches should only be only done by people who can fix problems. A gui is of no help to the cluele , I know too many Windows XP users who don't know what to do when Security Center rings a popup. Dumb terminals for everyone!
Might be ecific to 6.06.1 and not 6.06
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 07:55 AM
One of my guys, at my suggestion, downloaded Kubuntu Da er Drake, because he saw the succe that I have had with it.
Both of us did our updates the day before yesterday, within a couple of hours of each other.
Mine works just fine; his does not.
However, there is one other difference:
I'm ru ing the original Kubuntu 6.06.
He's ru ing 6.06 Update 1.
As for video cards, he's ru ing an nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600.
I'm ru ing an nVidia Quadro4 400 NVS, which came with my system.
Both, I believe, use the " v driver.
I have forwarded this article to him to give a shot on his 6.06.1 system.
Will let you know how it goes.
There are some fundamental problems!!
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 24, 2006 05:09 PM
Big Bad Window quot;
I use Kubuntu on two private workstatio and U untu on a private server.
I am very satisfied with my Kubuntu/Ubunt workstato and my server.
I use Windows XP on two machines that my kids uses for playing and use Windows XP on the two machines that I use on work.
I have NEVER had any experience that could be compared to this problem.
I discovered the solution to the X problem when I frustrated was about to remove X and - just by luck - notished that there were to upgradable packages. That did the trick.
But as the previous comment said - this is just not good enough.
This i ue show some big problems about Linux:
- if you want to use Linux you have to buy a tested distribution. Just like Windows. Then you have someone to blame, and a company that just wont expect you to be able to use a commandline utility.
- if you want to use a free distributed Linux OS you have to accept mistakes. I think it's ok to make mistakes. Just make the solutio visible in at way that is quick accesable (fx in the frontpage of you we ite).
If you want point out mistakes about Linux you have to accept:
- that EVERY time you do so, you will be told that Windows is even worse. Your problem is not vital for the one that tells you so, it's vital to point out that Windows is bad. As the comment that i'm replaying clearly shows, it's not importent to solve anything as long as the author is able to say something bad about Microsoft.
- that you shold be able to use a commandline and the most common commandline tools.
The people that tells you otherwise is not telling you the truth.
I have been using Linux for about 4 years, and my conclusion is that free distributed Linux workstatio is a olut NOT a threat to Windows. I don't know anything about the payed Linux distributio .
I will NOT recommend a free distributed Linux to any of my family.
It takes a lot of " lood, sweat and tear quot; to maintain fx Kubuntu.
If Kubuntu - or any other Linux - wants to be able to beat Windows this type of problems must just not ha end.
(If anyone is interested in another troublesome problem with the upgrade from Kubuntu 5.10 Kubuntu to Kubuntu 6.06 then I will recommend the problem with automounting u -keys/-drives and ivma quot;)
I hope that the discu ion about wich OS is the best will stop, and that all the fanatics will remain under their stones. These people don't love Linux they just found Microsoft to hate.
I don't think that i'm the only one that is tired of this meaningle discu ion.
I will continue to use Kubuntu, but I don't think that it will be just with joy.
A Victory for Microsoft's Pollute Linux Strategy
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 26, 2006 05:28 AM
Microsoft can't hurt Linux as long as it uses Free and Open Source software.
Thus, one of Microsoft's strategies has been to make Linux dependent on proprietary software and protocols, where Microsoft has some control (often working through proxies, to hide their actio ).
Two examples of this are Microsoft's push for< obr wbr/nobr.Net and DRM over the Internet.
Another is NVidia's and ATI's proprietary video drivers.
A few years ago, both NVidia, and (e ecially) ATI, were providing technical su ort for projects developing Open Source Linux drivers for their video cards.
Then, Microsoft contracted with NVidia to be a su lier for the XBox, following which NVidia hired up the NVidia driver developers, and sto ed them from working on the Open Source driver, to work on closed source NVidia drivers i tead. Likewise, when Microsoft contracted with ATI to be an XBox su lier, ATI sto ed su lying technical information for the Open Source ATI driver project.
Since then, we have been inundated with astroturf making the ridiculous claim that there is no danger in using closed source drivers with Open Source Linux.
Now, those chicke have come home to roost.
The reason that there is a problem here is not Ubuntu's fault. On the contrary, it is the fault of the closed source NVidia and ATI drivers.
For starters, the closed source nature of those drivers makes it much harder to test and debug problems with using those drivers.
Plus, when new features depend on corre onding changes in the drivers, we are left with a choice between some users (the proprietary driver users) having compatibility problems, or leaving the new features out of Linux until the proprietary driver manufacturers manage to catch up.
Those sorts of situatio -- delayed development, and usability problems -- are part of a strategy that Microsoft calls " utting the competition on the treadmill. It is just what Microsoft intended when they acted to push closed source NVidia and ATI drivers onto Linux.
Fedora has already run into problems with the closed source NVidia and ATI drivers, when they tried to add su ort for X.org 7.1, with some great new XGL features:
a href=http://lwn.net/Articles/195351/ title=lwn.nethttp://lwn.net/Articles/195351//a lwn.net
Fedora's decision was to leave out X.org 7.1 su ort to avoid problems like those experienced by some Ubuntu users. It has been eculated that NVidia and ATI will intentionally delay updating their Linux drivers until Microsoft can add similar XGL-like features into Vista.
Personally, I think Fedora's decision to delay the new features was wrong. Those Fedora users who chose to run closed source drivers made their choice, with full knowledge that they were making themselves dependent on closed source companies (not to mention friends of Microsoft) to provide timely driver updates. It is wrong to hold back features that Open Source Linux users could enjoy, in order to accomodate users who are choosing to pollute their systems with closed source drivers.
Finally, part of Microsoft's strategy is that, when problems occur, users will blame Linux, i tead of the closed source drivers.
And that's exactly what has ha ened here. Even Joe Barr was fooled.
Thanks for this article
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
August 26, 2006 09:44 AM
I must be pretty unlucky.
I just got a new monitor for my PC and booted it to find this problem. I thought it was a configuration problem with the new monitor and had been playing with the config for an hour until I found this article. Once I had upgraded, it worked first go !
Re:Thanks for this article
Posted by:
Administrator
June 03, 2007 01:45 AM
I will also try this method because I have the same problem (fatal error : no scree found) but I'm doubting that it will work because this article is quite old and I think that it's resolved with the updates of xorg. Just 2 questio : what is the actual release's numbers? (Joe bar oke about 10.2,3,4. Now, what it is?) and has it a chance to work for me? (my s3 virge dx pci video card seems to be i talled correctly)
Thanks and sorry for my english.
Big thanks
Posted by:
Anonymous Coward
October 01, 2006 11:10 PM
Your post allowed me to repair my Ubuntu.
That said, I am ha y I had Windows working in order to read that post< obr wbr/nobr> -)
Patrick
a href=http://www.idevlop.com/ title=idevlop.comhttp://www.idevlop.com//a idevlop.com
Current fix
Posted by:
Administrator
August 23, 2006 09:39 PM
The downgrade fix was pulled from the thread on this once they established that updating to 10.4 would fix the problem.
The current fix can be found here: a href=http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254 title=ubuntuforums.orghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254/a ubuntuforums.org
fundamental problem
Posted by:
Administrator
August 23, 2006 10:21 PM
the problem is 'in some hardware'. Distros need to have target hardware. Su orting the whole of the current hw ectrum properly is just impo ible without vendors cooperation (which is unavailable right now).
Ubuntu xorg-server update breaks X:
Posted by:
Anonymous
[ip: 78.86.141.175]
January 18, 2008 01:23 PM
none of the work-arounds work!!! cant seem to resolve this please help... tried all the other threds to no avail. This is doing my head in. PLEASE HELP
first system
2gb ram
nvidia 8400gs
secound system
2gb ram
nvidia 8600gt 512
Ubuntu xorg-server update breaks X: &am quot o scree found
Posted by:
Anonymous
[ip: 220.253.69.13]
January 19, 2008 10:50 PM
20th January 2008 and it did it again. The new xorg update killed my i tallation dead. They need to be far more careful in updates.
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　　烂尾原因：用户接受度低
　　Picasa是Google旗下的照片管理软件，由于简洁易用和照片无损编辑的特性在Windows平台赢得了不少用户的青睐。然而Linux版本 由于是通过wine非本地化实现的，受到不少 Linux粉丝的诟病，用户接受度偏低也是可以理解的。
　　 　　值得一提的是Picasa for Linux在捆绑Wine的时候， Google的工程师也为wine项目的发展做出了一定的贡献。
　　遗憾的是，最近的Linux发行版的更新，导致Picasa for Linux捆绑的wine不能正确调用系统库完成Picsa Web Album账户的登入，需要参照帮助中心此文进行修改才可。
　　Google Desktop for Linux
　　烂尾版本：1.2
　　烂尾原因：不能说的秘密
　　当桌面搜索这个概念在2006年兴起的时候，诸多公司推出相应平台的桌面搜索解决方案，同时被媒体誉为个人档案管理的新纪元。搜索引擎巨头 Google当然不能免俗，立刻参战，并且在2007年先后登陆Mac和Linux平台。
　　 　　Google Desktop for Linux 特点在于对浏览器的整合，可以整合到浏览器的网页搜索项目中，并且热键唤出的搜索框外型具有现代感。然而缺乏正则表达式的支持是一个巨大的硬伤。相对的， 对于桌面环境整合程度就不如Beagle和KDE Strigi了。另外，在其他平台的Gadgets被分拆到google-gadgets里，并未随该桌面搜索***。
　　然而随着桌面搜索概念逐渐降温，Google Desktop for Linux也随之不再更新了。目前，或许只有像笔者这样使用GNOME桌面环境并且不愿意***庞大Mono运行库的人才会用它吧。
　　不得不说的是，Linux版本是谷歌中国主导开发的。
　　EVE Online for Linux
　　烂尾版本：3.23
　　烂尾原因：Linux用户太少，客户端性能难以令人满意。
　　EVE Online 是一款在欧美玩家中十分受欢迎的网络游戏。由于游戏背景和流程的特殊性，吸引了不少极客参予。考虑到用户操作系统的多样性，推出Mac OS X和Linux版本也是可以理解的。
　　 　　Linux平台的客户端刚刚推出的时候，得到了不少支持，认为是主流游戏登录Linux平台的标志。然而后续的Linux版本维护和性能上相比其他 平台的巨大落差，让不少玩家宁愿通过基于 wine 的兼容技术去运行也不愿意使用 Linux 的原生客户端，当时可谓怨念四起。
　　终于在2007 年底的时候， EVE Online正式宣布停止不讨好的Linux版本维护，转而指导Linux 平台的玩家使用wine去运行。
　　总结：
　　相信还有很多的非开源软件在Linux平台上由于这样那样的原因烂尾了，本文希望能起到抛砖引玉的作用，引起更多人的思考。纵然 Linux 的壮大靠的开源社区，但是 Linux 的普及，没有商业软件的支持也是难以实现的。
　　然而现实是除了这些烂尾的，还有诸多被穿小鞋的(ATI/AMD 驱动，Adobe Flash Player)的商业软件严重阻碍着Linux 进一步的普及。短时间内也很难完成部分商业软件的开源实现。商业软件的 Linux 版本，何去何从?
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